First: here’s the API 512:
LISTEN: Drums_API
…and here’s the OBH:
LISTEN: Drums_RCA_hybrid
Our impressions were as follows: the OBH has more low end extension. On the Blue Sky system, the kick drum in the OBH signal moved the room in a way that the API simply could not. The API seemed to move the kit a little closer to the plane of the speakers, but at the same time the top end was not as in-focus. There is a definite low-midrange boost going on with the API. I can say this with relative confidence because I measured the frequency response of the OBH and it is totally flat from 15Hz – 10K, with only a very slight raise above 10K. In terms of operation: the API gain control was at 3 o’clock; the OBH was at 9 o’clock. WOW that is a lot of gain.
LISTEN: AcGtr_API
…and now the OBH:
LISTEN: AcGtr_RCA_Hybrid
Our impressions were that the OBH had more low bass but less low mids; it had a more ‘mellow’ feeling. The OBH also had better high-end extension. This also resulted in slightly more HVAC (air conditioning) room noise in the OBH. Although I like the sound of the OBH again here, it is less of a clear-cut choice. The mid-boost that API seems to deliver is very welcome in this particular setup.
In summary: TW put it this way: ‘(the OBH) is like a pair of gentle shelves (shelving EQs) on the very highs a lows.’ I think this is very accurate. The OBH seems to give what I think of as an English sound: that sort of larger-than-life, hyper-real sound that UK records have always aspired to. I highly encourage your DIY’ers out there to give this project a shot; you will find it to be a very useful tool.
Thanks again to TW for his help with this listening test; T’s band THE STEPKIDS is just back from LA where they did a direct-to-vinyl (!) live set in front of a studio audience (!!!) at Capsule Mastering Labs. Check out the details of this very cool endeavor here and here.
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Thanks for putting this listening test and results together - very useful.
I'm still working up to my Altec 1566 project, but some kind of RCA endeavour may be a good follow-up if I succeed on the first outing.
First thing is to get my old Presto Pre's up and running.. slowly slowly.
Keep up the great work.
Hi Chris, after listening sound here, I build one.
This things sounds great, and loud, great for ribbon.
Used UTC ouncer for input
And used Gates SA-70 first stage (just cause I build sa70 bunch in past)
Other I followed your info, Edcor, Jensen choke.
Little noise problem at first, but now gone. Thank you again for great info.
Thinking about next might be 76>76>6C5 mic pre.
Hi Sho. Wonderful to hear this from you. Nothing could make me happier than somone actually putting this arcane information to good use. I am not familiar with the 6C5; I know the 6C6. The 6C6 is the older 6-pin version of what became the 6J7 aka 1620 aka 6SJ7 aka 5693.
I been interesting in old 8pin tube pre sound as mic pre.
So your OP6 article helped alot, thank you.
6J7, 6SJ7 I love them both, but somehow not cheap in here Japan.
6c5 was used alot in old Gates amps like Sa70
And little cheaper 6J7 or sj, so I use 6C5 reguilarly
Think EMMR knows alot about Gates, he loves Gates seems.
Now I am interesting in 5pin tubes sound, like 76 as mic pre.
Any plan for post sound test of your 76 pre?
That one looks so cool and love to hear the sound.
Hello sho- i actually use the "old 76" preamp on every session that i do at Goldcoast Recorders. It it my standard top-snare mic using an old shure sm56 with a 20db barrel pad attached to the mic. It sounds wonderful. I made the "old 76"'so long ago that i cannot recall the exact circuit, but in think that it is 1) jensen 115 transformer into 2) 76 tube with 2200 ohm cathode resistor, 100k plate res, 3) volume pot, 4) some sort of configuration of a 6sl7 tube that resolves with a cathode follower, 5) edcor 15k: 600 output trans. C.
Thank you for your input.
Gee, I better start putting 76 pre together very soon.
You and your site rocks !
This is a nice write up. How do I find the values for all the caps and resistors. There is no voltage or polarity for the caps needed, and no wattage ratings for the resistors. Also there are a few resistor ratings missing. How do I find this info? Is there a better schematic our there that will help?
Thank you
Scott
Amazing!
Wonderful work